Debates in the House of Representatives on the Seventeenth Amendment, 1912

May 13, 1912 (2)

ELECTION OF SENATORS DY POPULAR VOTE.6 min read
1: House, May 13, 1912 (2), ¶ 1 (House1912.May13b.1)

::\Ir. RUCKER of Missouri. Mr. Speaker, I request the Chair to lay before the House House joint resolution 3!:>, with the Senn tc amendments.

2: House, May 13, 1912 (2), ¶ 2 (House1912.May13b.2)

The SPEAKER. The Chair lays before the House a certain Ilo1 ~. e joint re. _ resolution, with Senate amendments, which the Clerk will report by title.

3: House, May 13, 1912 (2), ¶ 3 (House1912.May13b.3)

Tlle Clerk read the title of House joint resolution 30, proposing nn amendment to the Constitution providing that Senators ha11 be elected by the people of the several States. · Tlle SPEAKER. The Clerk will now report the resolution of Ole Senate adhering to its amendment.

5: House, May 13, 1912 (2), ¶ 5 (House1912.May13b.5)

I~ Tim SENATE OF TIIE UNITED STATES,

7: House, May 13, 1912 (2), ¶ 7 (House1912.May13b.7)

Resolved, That the Senate further insist upon its amendment to the joint resolution proposing :: n.n amendment to the Constitution providing thnt • . cnn.tora shall be elected by the people of the several States.

8: House, May 13, 1912 (2), ¶ 8 (House1912.May13b.8)

)Ir. RUCKER of Mis ouri. l\Ir. Speaker, it is my purpose at suddenly. the proper time to move that the House recede from it disagreement to the Senate amendment and concur in the same.

9: House, May 13, 1912 (2), ¶ 9 (House1912.May13b.9)

.fr. BARTLETT. Will the gentleman make that motion now? Ir. RUCKER of Mis ouri. I do not make that motion now, this proposition . but I am simply trying to notify gentlemen of what I propose to do. ·

10: House, May 13, 1912 (2), ¶ 10 (House1912.May13b.10)

~Ir. BARTLETT. I have a preferential motion.

11: House, May 13, 1912 (2), ¶ 11 (House1912.May13b.11)

'l'hc SPEAKER. The Chair will recognize the gentleman from Georgia in ample time.

13: House, May 13, 1912 (2), ¶ 13 (House1912.May13b.13)

The SPEAKER. The gentleman from Missouri [Mr. Rucker] Mr. Speaker. has the floor.

14: House, May 13, 1912 (2), ¶ 14 (House1912.May13b.14)

~fr. BARTLETT. A point of order, Mr. Speaker.

15: House, May 13, 1912 (2), ¶ 15 (House1912.May13b.15)

The SPEAKER. The gentleman will state it l\lr. BARTLETT. My point of order ls that if the gentleman from .Missouri declines to make any motion at all, then side? any Member who has a preferential mot.ion has n light to make thn t motion now.

16: House, May 13, 1912 (2), ¶ 16 (House1912.May13b.16)

The SPEAKER. Undoubtedly the right to make a motion is not confined to the gentleman from :Missouri.

17: House, May 13, 1912 (2), ¶ 17 (House1912.May13b.17)

l\Ir. RUCKER of Missouri. Ur. Speaker, I have announced what motion I inter: to make.

18: House, May 13, 1912 (2), ¶ 18 (House1912.May13b.18)

The SPEAKER. The gentleman will have to make his motion.

19: House, May 13, 1912 (2), ¶ 19 (House1912.May13b.19)

Mr. RUCKER of l\Ii . Missouri. l\Ir. Speaker, I move that the llou e recede from it disagreement to tlle Senate amendment known as the Bristow amendment, and concur in the same.

20: House, May 13, 1912 (2), ¶ 20 (House1912.May13b.20)

The SPEAKER. The gentleman from Mi souri moves that LETT]. the House recede from its disagreement to the Senate amendment and concur therein.

21: House, May 13, 1912 (2), ¶ 21 (House1912.May13b.21)

l\Ir. BARTLETT. l\Ir. Speaker, I rnnkc the preferential motion which I send to the Clerk’s desk.

22: House, May 13, 1912 (2), ¶ 22 (House1912.May13b.22)

The SPEAK~Il. The I rk will report it.

24: House, May 13, 1912 (2), ¶ 24 (House1912.May13b.24)

To concur in the Senate amcn<'lmcnt with the following amendment: "Pro,,;irlcd, 'l'bnt Congress s hall not hnvc power or authority to pro· vlde for the quaUtlcations of electors of nited Stn.tes enn.tors within the various Stnte1::1 of the United Stutes, nor to a.utborlze the appointment of supervisors of election , judge s of election, or returning boards to certify the results of any such election, nor to authorize the use of United States marshals or the military forces o f the United Stntcs o-r troops of the United States nt the polls durin~ said election.

25: House, May 13, 1912 (2), ¶ 25 (House1912.May13b.25)

Mr. RCCKER of Mi •. ouri. ::\Ir. Speaker--

26: House, May 13, 1912 (2), ¶ 26 (House1912.May13b.26)

Mr. BARTLETT. Ur. Speaker, I rni c n point of order.

27: House, May 13, 1912 (2), ¶ 27 (House1912.May13b.27)

The SPEAKER. The gentlemnn will state it.

28: House, May 13, 1912 (2), ¶ 28 (House1912.May13b.28)

Mr. BARTLETT. Having offered n preferential motion which tends 1.o bring the two Hou. es together, I clnim thut that is the first question to be debated, and tllnt the Member offering that motion is to have control of the time nnd debate so far n.s his side is concerned upon that motion.

29: House, May 13, 1912 (2), ¶ 29 (House1912.May13b.29)

The SPEAKER. Undoubtedly, when the time for -voting come the motion offered by the gentleman from Georgia i first to be voted upon.

30: House, May 13, 1912 (2), ¶ 30 (House1912.May13b.30)

Mr. BARTLETT. But, l\Ir. Speaker, that is not the point of order I made.

31: House, May 13, 1912 (2), ¶ 31 (House1912.May13b.31)

l\Ir. RUCKER of Missouri. I claim that I have the floor.

32: House, May 13, 1912 (2), ¶ 32 (House1912.May13b.32)

The SPEAKER. The gentleman from Missouri was recognized and is entitled to the floor for one hour.

33: House, May 13, 1912 (2), ¶ 33 (House1912.May13b.33)

Mr. RUCh..""ER of l\Iis. ouri. Mr. Speaker, unle s there can be nu agreement for a reasonable time for debate within an hour the gentleman from Missouri will move the previous que tion on tlle e motions. If there is anybody oppo ed to this mea ure, I will agree ns to the time to be allowed . for debate.

34: House, May 13, 1912 (2), ¶ 34 (House1912.May13b.34)

Mr. BARTLETT. A. point of order, Mr. Speaker.

35: House, May 13, 1912 (2), ¶ 35 (House1912.May13b.35)

The SPEAKER. The gentleman will state it.

36: House, May 13, 1912 (2), ¶ 36 (House1912.May13b.36)

Mr. BARTLETT. I r:iii:::c the point of order, and ask the judgment of the Chair upon it, Urnt the gentleman from Missouri having moyecl to concur in the Senate amendment, :111<1 I having made a preferential motion to concur in the Senate amendment with an amendment, which motion takes precedence over the motion to concur, that that motion is to be first dispo. ed of, and that the party offering the motion is entitled to proceed and discu s that motion and control the time for one hour.

37: House, May 13, 1912 (2), ¶ 37 (House1912.May13b.37)

The SPEAKER. The situation is this: Both motions are pending, and when the vote is taken the vote will first be taken on the motion offered by the gentleman from . Georgia. In the meantime the gentleman from "'Ii . Missouri has the floor and is entitled to one hour. He is entitled to do what he pleases with that hour under the rules of the House. If he wants to move the previous question he has the right so to do.

38: House, May 13, 1912 (2), ¶ 38 (House1912.May13b.38)

Mr. BARTLETT. Anybody can move the 1n·e ious question.

39: House, May 13, 1912 (2), ¶ 39 (House1912.May13b.39)

The SPEAKER. But he can not do it while the gentleman from Missouri has the floor.

40: House, May 13, 1912 (2), ¶ 40 (House1912.May13b.40)

~r. RUCKER of Missouri. Mr. Speaker. if we can not agree as to the time for general debate something will occur

41: House, May 13, 1912 (2), ¶ 41 (House1912.May13b.41)

Mr. BARTLETT. h, there is no quest.ion ns to what the gentleman from Missouri will do.

42: House, May 13, 1912 (2), ¶ 42 (House1912.May13b.42)

l\Ir. PAYNE. There is nobody on this side that is opposed to ... Ir. RUCKER of Missouri. Is there anybody on this side of the House that is oppos d to the proposi lion? '

43: House, May 13, 1912 (2), ¶ 43 (House1912.May13b.43)

The SPEAKER. The Chair will recognize the gentleman from Georgia [Ur. BAnTLETT] a having charge of the opposition.

44: House, May 13, 1912 (2), ¶ 44 (House1912.May13b.44)

r. BARTLETT. .And I am proud to occupy that position,

45: House, May 13, 1912 (2), ¶ 45 (House1912.May13b.45)

Mr. RUCKER of Mis ourL How much time does the gentleman from Georgia want for debate?

46: House, May 13, 1912 (2), ¶ 46 (House1912.May13b.46)

.:\fr. B.A.RTLETT. I want about an bQur myself.

47: House, May 13, 1912 (2), ¶ 47 (House1912.May13b.47)

Mr. RUCKER of Missouri. .And how much time for that Mr. IIEl'.'RY of Texas. l\fr. Speaker, I de •ire to submit a question for unanimous consent.

49: House, May 13, 1912 (2), ¶ 49 (House1912.May13b.49)

Mr. HENRY of Texas. Touching this matter.

50: House, May 13, 1912 (2), ¶ 50 (House1912.May13b.50)

l\Ir. BARTLETT. I think the gentleman from Mis ouri and I can agree upon the time.

51: House, May 13, 1912 (2), ¶ 51 (House1912.May13b.51)

The SPEAKER. The gentleman from Texas ask unanimous consent to make n request.

52: House, May 13, 1912 (2), ¶ 52 (House1912.May13b.52)

Mr. HENRY of Texas. I ask unanimous consent that 30 minutes' time be allowed to the gentleman from :Mis ourl n.ncl 30 minutes' . time to tlie gentleman from Georgia [Mr. BARTMr. :MANN. And at the end of that time the previous question to be considered ns ordered?

53: House, May 13, 1912 (2), ¶ 53 (House1912.May13b.53)

The SPEAKER. The gentleman from Texas asks unanimous consent that debate on this matter shall extend for one hour, the gentleman from: Missouri and the gentleman from Georgia shall have half an hour each, and that at the end of the hour practice. the previous question shall be considered as ordered.

54: House, May 13, 1912 (2), ¶ 54 (House1912.May13b.54)

Mr. RUCKER of Missouri. Mr. Speaker, I ask unanimous practice. consent that debate may be limited to two b.ours-one hour on a side, the gentleman from Georgia to control one hour and I to control the other.

55: House, May 13, 1912 (2), ¶ 55 (House1912.May13b.55)

The SPEAKER. The gentleman from Missouri asks, in lieu The SPEAKER. of the request of the gentleman from Texas, that general debate be limited to two hours, one hour on a side; that the gentleman fr-om Georgia [l\Ir. BARTLETT] may control one hour and the gentleman from Missouri [Mr. RUCKER] the other hour; and at the end of the expiration of the two hours the previous question shall be considered as ordered.

56: House, May 13, 1912 (2), ¶ 56 (House1912.May13b.56)

Mr. BARTLETT. The previous question on what?

57: House, May 13, 1912 (2), ¶ 57 (House1912.May13b.57)

The SPEAKER. On these two motions. Is there objection? practice. l\Ir. DYER. Mr. Speaker, reserving the right to object, I desire to know if the b : business for District day will follow immediately after this matter is disposed of?

58: House, May 13, 1912 (2), ¶ 58 (House1912.May13b.58)

The SPEAKER. The District business will follow immedia tely after these motions are disposed of unless a supplemental privileged motion or request is made. Is there objection to the request of the gentleman from Missouri? [After a pause.] The Chair bears none, and it is so orderP.rl. -

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