Debates in the Senate on the Seventeenth Amendment, 1911

June 27, 1911

ELECTION OF SENA.TORS BY DIRECT VOTE.3 min read
1: Senate, June 27, 1911, ¶ 1 (Senate1911.Jun27.1)

The VICE PRESIDENT laid before the Senate the action of the House of Representatives disagreeing to the amendment of the Senate to the joint resolution (H. J. Res. 39) proposing an amendment to the Constitution providing that Senators shall be elected by the people of the several States.

2: Senate, June 27, 1911, ¶ 2 (Senate1911.Jun27.2)

Mr. CLARK of Wyoming. I move that the Senate insist on its amendment and ask for a conference on the disagreeing votes of the two Houses, and that the Chair appoint the conferees on the part of the Senate.

3: Senate, June 27, 1911, ¶ 3 (Senate1911.Jun27.3)

The VICE PRESIDENT. The question is on the motion of the Senator from Wyoming.

4: Senate, June 27, 1911, ¶ 4 (Senate1911.Jun27.4)

Mr. HEYBURN. Mr. President, I do not believe it is the will of the Senate to ask for conferees.

5: Senate, June 27, 1911, ¶ 5 (Senate1911.Jun27.5)

The VICE PRESIDENT. That is the motion.

6: Senate, June 27, 1911, ¶ 6 (Senate1911.Jun27.6)

Mr. HEYBURN. The motion is debatable?

7: Senate, June 27, 1911, ¶ 7 (Senate1911.Jun27.7)

The VICE PRESIDENT. Oh, yes; of course.

8: Senate, June 27, 1911, ¶ 8 (Senate1911.Jun27.8)

Mr. HEYBURN. Let the House action be read again.

9: Senate, June 27, 1911, ¶ 9 (Senate1911.Jun27.9)

The VICE PRESIDENT. The Secretary will, without objection, again read the resolution of the House. ·

13: Senate, June 27, 1911, ¶ 13 (Senate1911.Jun27.13)

Resol v ed That the House of Representatives disagre es to the amendment of the Senate to the joint resolution (H. J. Re s . 3 9) propos i ng an amendment to the Constitution providing that Senators shall be elected by the people of the several St a t e s. I ask that the motion go o ve r for the day. The Senate does not necessarily have to ask for conferees.

14: Senate, June 27, 1911, ¶ 14 (Senate1911.Jun27.14)

The VICE PRESIDENT. Not n e cessarily; but the motion has been made, and it is in order. It does not ha v e to go o v er. It is one of the motions which, under the rule, should be proceeded with until disposed of.

15: Senate, June 27, 1911, ¶ 15 (Senate1911.Jun27.15)

Mr. BORAH. I understand the joint resolution does not go over by a mere objection.

17: Senate, June 27, 1911, ¶ 17 (Senate1911.Jun27.17)

l\Ir. HEYBURN. It seems to me that the proper action is that the Senate do not concur in the action of the House. This is not upon an amendment; it is upon a joint re s olution. The amendment has been absorbed in the joint resolution. I had not expected that a motion to appoint conferees would be made at this time. Of course the question next would come up on the adoption of the conference report. But it is a question whether the Senate should ask for a conference, the House not having asked for one.

18: Senate, June 27, 1911, ¶ 18 (Senate1911.Jun27.18)

The joint resolution came from the House. The Senate amended it and it went back to the House, and they declined to agree to the amendment and did not ask for conferees. It is not the usual manner of proceeding. The question will arise. now as to the vote required to send it to conference, because it is an entirety and it will affect the enactment of the joint resolution.

19: Senate, June 27, 1911, ¶ 19 (Senate1911.Jun27.19)

Mr. BACON. The Senator will remember that the amend- , By l\Ir. PENROSE: ment in the Senate was passed by a majority vote .

20: Senate, June 27, 1911, ¶ 20 (Senate1911.Jun27.20)

l\Ir. HEYBURN . But after it is passed the amendment can never again be considered by a majority vote, because the I ame n dment became a part of the joint resolution. It is no longer an amendment

21: Senate, June 27, 1911, ¶ 21 (Senate1911.Jun27.21)

Mr. BACON. What went to the House is an amendment , mittee on Finance. solely.

22: Senate, June 27, 1911, ¶ 22 (Senate1911.Jun27.22)

Mr. HEYBURN. It is not an amendment now . .

23: Senate, June 27, 1911, ¶ 23 (Senate1911.Jun27.23)

l\Ir. BACON . Yes; it is, so far as they are concerned. That is what they resolved they will not accept.

24: Senate, June 27, 1911, ¶ 24 (Senate1911.Jun27.24)

l\lr. CLARK of Wyoming. Mr. President- -

25: Senate, June 27, 1911, ¶ 25 (Senate1911.Jun27.25)

The VICE PRESIDENT. Does the Senator from Idaho yield to the Senator from Wyoming?

26: Senate, June 27, 1911, ¶ 26 (Senate1911.Jun27.26)

l\Ir. HEYBURN. I will yield the floor. I merely wanted that we should not just glide alo-ng and then afterwards discover that we had been on slippery ground.

27: Senate, June 27, 1911, ¶ 27 (Senate1911.Jun27.27)

Mr. CLARK of Wyoming . Let the question be put.

28: Senate, June 27, 1911, ¶ 28 (Senate1911.Jun27.28)

The VICE PRESIDENT. The question is on agreeing to the motion of the Senator from Wyoming.

29: Senate, June 27, 1911, ¶ 29 (Senate1911.Jun27.29)

The motion was agreed to, and the Vice President appointed Mr. CLARK of Wyoming, Mr. NELSON, and Mr. BACON the conferees on the p::u-t of the Senate.

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